ICT 때문에 신입 트레이더들이 망가진다 😕

I think the problem isn’t ICT itself but how beginners consume it.
Most concepts there aren’t new — liquidity, inefficiencies, order flow ideas have existed forever. The issue is new traders think learning terminology = having an edge.
You can mark every FVG and liquidity sweep perfectly and still lose money if risk management, execution and psychology aren’t there.
Same thing happened years ago with indicators, now it’s just rebranded market structure.
No strategy saves someone who hasn’t learned how markets actually move under real conditions.

It’s not relevant. Anyone who can’t see that ICT is a scam will lose their money anyways. I think it’s a positive that ICT exists, it makes it super obvious who doesn’t know how to trade and who does. They take known concepts, and add less intuitive, more impressive sounding names to imply expertise. Fake traders love ICT because they think it makes them sound smart and credible, new traders are impressed by the feigned complexity and follow along.

Okay stop
Yapping what’s your strategy?

I agree, and I hate to say it (not really) but ICT himself is a narcissistic fraud who can't even complete the Robins Cup. He's been exposed so many damn times and people STILL swear by his methods.

I'm very happy that I never got roped into that whole cult. I trade volume profile, I made the switch a couple months ago and I will NEVER look back. Volume Profile and Order Flow are probably the most profitable strategy I've ever tested and traded, for me at least. It's not very difficult to pick up either. The market only provides you with 4 pieces of concrete information: Time, Price, Volume, and Order Flow. For me, I feel like it's stupid if you don't use those to guide your trading. It's like flying a plane in a storm, and not using the instruments that are literally telling you your exact altitude, speed, heading, and pitch. And instead, you decide to use lagging and averaging instruments, then get surprised when you meet the ground quicker than you thought.

I think any strategy can work, but it's due to the discretion of the person trading that strategy. Volume Profile still requires a trader's discretion, but it's much easier for me to gauge what the context of the market is, and make the most high-probability trades. I hope that anyone who is currently trading ICT, or thinking about trading ICT... switch to Volume Profile and Order Flow. Use those instruments that the market gives you. With some time, you will begin to understand the benefits you get from using the information that's in front of you.

Then again, anyone can trade how they please.

What do you think is worth spending energy on for new traders, if discipline and psychology is already perfect for following a profitable system?

What’s ICT never heard of it ?

the methodology isnt the problem. the problem is people learn the setup but skip the part about waiting for it. ICT literally says wait for the setup to come to you. most people just cant sit on their hands

Aren’t they just providing liquidity. Don’t see the problem here.

ict = I can’t trade

I disagree. ICT teaches good concepts, the thing new traders need to realize is: nothing in this business is precise, and you might think you know what price will do, and Mr Market will still do the opposite. IMO you should view the market with possible If/Then outcomes, and when it shows you the way it’s going, jump on it, then take profit. Manage risk and emotions consistently and you will become profitable. Markets are fractal so the pattern you recognize might be a pattern within a pattern you aren’t seeing, respect that reality.

Eh ict works for me I win almost everyday