프로프 트레이딩 회사에 대한 불만, 무엇이 바뀌어야 할까? 🤔

Prop firms have you pay them to paper trade. You are not actually trading real capital for them. It is a fiction. They make money ONLY IF YOU LOSE. Think about how that affects the incentives of how they operate.

The business model of retail prop firms is what people here have a problem with, not the 'incentives' they use to lure in new traders.

TLDR: props can be used to prove concepts, could just paper trade for free. An alternate route is to save money to get the same draw down $2-4.5k and trade your own capital only after you have a statistical edge. I am not a financial advisor and you’re trading at your own risk.

It’s a tool for certain types of traders. I think once you know your strategy and have solid statistics (you could do this for free via trading view paper trading but I get that having some skin in the game + potential payout as a reward is appealing).

I’ve taken 4 payouts between Sep 25 and Jan 26. The frustration I have is that the initial paper trading evaporates. Let’s say I do a 150k with 6k goal I hit it advance then have a few bad days and hit 3k drawdown which could be 3k profit back to 0. If you view both phases as 1 I would be up $6k trading my own capital. For me this caused major frustration. I think in 2025 alone I’d theoretically be up $35k (I passed multiple phase 1s). You’re trading a rule set within an already difficult activity that is trading.

You get “150k” in buying power but really it’s whatever the drawdown is.

Once I tracked my trades and have what I think is an edge I just paper traded it on trading view. After 30 days swapped over to live trading with my own capital and now have a +PNL if I’m up $5k and I drawdown $1k during a week, my broker doesn’t take the rest of my PNL.

The race to the bottom as it pertains to decreasing sim payouts. No one wants to go live. We want to farm sim funded. If a new prop was smart, they’d increase the payout caps, not decrease.

“I noticed that most of the FUD was... Kind of outdated?”

You have that backwards mate 😎

Prop owners openly admit that the golden days of props cashing in are gone.

5-10 years ago there were tons of uneducated beginner traders pumping millions into props.

Today there are fewer traders applying to props and of the ones that do, many are already profitable and continue to milk the casino.

You can search and find that once stable props like FTMO and The5ers are pulling the same silly stunts to avoid payouts.

So it is not FUD, getting a payout from a prop is not as easy as it once was, but it is still far ***easier and safer*** for a beginner than putting your own money into a live account.

The smart thing is to spend $50 and get $2k worth of draw down with the chance of cashing out $1k or more.

Look up "Ponzi Scheme" and come back. Just take the money you pay to those assholes and trade it. 

The so called payouts is like 1% of the money they pool. They win huge doing nothing but having ai come out with new challenges. 

We want to stop using prop firms and ensure that no sucker is scammed by them again.